Rogers cuts Boras and Glavine offer

Two really big stories here. The first is that Scott Boras already having an issue with the A-Rod proceedings, is now official cut off from Kenny Rogers, as Rogers has (and an arguably smart move) fired Boras.

According to MLB.com, Rogers after having an off year with a blood clot in his pitching shoulder was out til mid season and after that had more problems in his pitching elbow which landed him on the DL for most o f the rest of the season and officially with 3-4 in 11 starts in 2007. That is after coming off of a 17-10 season in 2006 with a 3-0, 0.00 ERA in the 2006 postseason. Rogers was given through Boras two offers from the Tigers one reportedly worth 11 million one year deal. Both were turned down by Boras. This was after in September saying Rogers was either going to retire or pitch only with Detroit. Many fans including myself thought that he was double crossing Detroit. With this new news today, it shows that Rogers was really not in the discussion and Boras was really handling all of Rogers offers and negotiations. Now that Rogers is representing himself A offer and contract signing from Detroit is almost an assured thing. Ill even give him that 10 million base salary with 1 million+ incentives just because he is a leader in the rotation and because Boras is gone LOL. Great job Kenny you know where your heart is IN DETROIT!!!

In other news according to MLB.com, the Braves GM Wren has been the first to offer a contract to Tom Glavine. The contract details were not given out but this has been talked about by Clifton who is Glavines agent. He said,

"We will have a counter proposal by Friday evening or Saturday morning."

This shows that Glavine is the #1 signing the Braves want for starting rotation and the same goes for Glavine as he wants to be a Brave when he retires. This is great for the Braves organization if we can pull this one off without using a lot of money. Glavine should get around 10 million plus incentives and a possible 2009 mutual option. This would help the Braves tremendously and I hope the Braves get Glavine. The veteran presence with Smoltz, and Glavine will help the #4 and 5 starters especially if it is Chuck James/Jo-Jo Reyes/Jair Jurrjens.
They will be helped out tremendously.

In another small trade MLBTR is reporting Oscar "The Vulture" Villarreal was traded to the Houston Astros for CF Josh Anderson. Anderson is not a 5 tool or even a 4 tool outfielder, he definitely looks to be a backup plan in case Wren can not sign or trade for a experienced CF. Anderson hit .358 in the final month of the 2007 season with the Astros but in AAA he hit .258 with 41 stolen bases. He looks like a speedster but his on base percentage of .325 in AAA. So he will need some major help if we can not find anyone else out there for CF. Oscar Villarreal good luck with your new team, wish you the best. You can find more analysis of this trade on BlabberinBraves.

Tigers pitching worries?

Well last night I was keeping an eye on the hot stove for the Tigers since getting the news that Rogers and Boras declined two Detroit offers according to the Detroit News. This is getting interesting. With the reported offer that Rogers was given indicated that it was $9-11 million offer for one year with incentives. This base salary is waaaaaay to much even for Rogers and his awesome 2006 season. Bilfer at DetroitTigersWeblog gives a detail description of how much Rogers is worth for another season. He indicates that it should be around $10 million. I still think that is too much but with added incentives he is worth the $11 million. Rogers is getting way old and to pay for a pitcher $10 million when he just came off of a injury plagued season, is just ridiculous. Dave Dombrowski needs to start seriously look at signing Silva or Jennings or try for a trade for say a Willis or a Derek Lowe. I will explain what signing those FA or Trades will do to us.

Our rotation must be fixed and soon. If Rogers signed elsewhere, we must sign Silva, or Lohse.

Kyle Lohse- In 2006 after being traded to Philly, Lohse had a great final two months with plenty run support and controlling his pitches. Lohse's numbers for 2006 A)4.58 ERA, 16 HR allowed, and 6-12 record. His Philly stats indicated a much better pitcher with a lineup with run support, 4.72 ERA, 6 HR allowed and 3-0 record. With both Great American Ballpark and Citizens Bank Ballpark being HR parks, I believe Lohse coming here(to Comerica) would be an added bonus and with the run support, he will be a winning pitcher and possibly a great surprise. The cost will be high.

Carlos Silva- He is another high cost FA pitcher. Though he is younger then Lohse, I'm not sure he would be better. His 2006 stats show a very .500 pitcher at best. He had a 13-14 record, with a 4.19 ERA, and only 89Ks. Even so, he would be a average #4 or 5 spot rotation. If we cant pick up Rogers or Lohse then Silva would be the guy.

Andrew Miller- I mean I'm not a Miller hater, but I don’t want Miller in the rotation because he is still I believe a year out from being a major leaguer. We need an established major league pitcher like Rogers and Lohse to round out the rotation this year and then bring in Miller next year. Sign Lohse/Silva to a 4 year deal worth $50 Million. And that will give us a strong rotation til Porcello comes in.

‘08 Rotation

1. Bonderman
2. Rogers?
3. Verlander
4. Silva/Lohse
5. Robertson

‘09 Rotation

1.Bonderman
2.Verlander
3.Silva/Lohse
4.Robertson/Miller
5.Miller/Porcello

‘10 Rotation

1. Verlander
2. Bonderman
3. Miller
4. Silva/Lohse
5. Porcello

Brian Fuentes- For relief, I still like the idea of bringing in Brian Fuentes. He a established reliever and a possible closer type candidate if Jones were to get injured. Brian helped the Rockies in the 7th and 8th innings in the playoffs and was pretty solid. His ‘07 stats are compelling with an 3.08 ERA, with 56Ks in 61.1 innings. His career stats aren't that different with an 3.53 ERA, 398Ks in 359.1 innings pitched. He would do us a favor and would be great in the backup/setup role. He would come as a huge cost coming off of a great year, so not sure how much DD would pay to get him.

Octavio Dotel- From what I heard from MLB.com Hot Stove, the Tigers are in contact with Octavio Dotel's agent. He still have some nasty stuff with his delivery. The only thing that makes me skeptical is the injuries he has had last season and seasons past. Dotel however, if proven healthy would make a fine back up closer and setup man for the Tigers bullpen, and with his injury woes he should come cheap.

I think that looks good, though the cost of Silva and/or Lohse might be too high for The Tigers but they would look good and be good in the old English D.

Glavine and Tiger Roundup

UPDATE 11/14 2:00am:
According to MLB.com Hot Stove, the Tigers have been in contact with the FA Octavio Dotel. This would ultimately safe guard our setup man and also have a emergency closer. Though I do like this possible signing.....Dotel has been injury plagued for many seasons and I'm not sure about how effective he will be. If he can be very effective with minimal injury, he will be an awesome addition but if he is plagued with injury, It will be 2007 all over again.

More on this and Kenny, tomorrow and on possible other deals or signings in respect to our rotation.

UPDATE 11/14 1:35am:
Wow things are moving fast!! According to MLB.com Hot Stove, Boras and Rogers have declined already two offers from the Tigers and Dombrowski. This is almost a finish between the two parties. Dombrowski if he is smart wont offer a third package. As much as I love Rogers thought he was the glue that held us together in 2006, theres now way I would give him and Boras(greedy agent) $10 million for a one year deal. If this is it Good Luck to Rogers and his new team. And as for Boras he is brillant but also a greedy agent that ruins good team chemistry(Tigers-Rogers, Braves-Jones, in '09 Braves- Texiera). For that a big whooping THANKS >:(

Also the Tigers have gotten Danny Christensen in the deal that sent Romon Colon to the Royals. Danny was 5-15 in AA for the Royals so it seems like a baggage for baggage trade we shall see.

More on this tomorrow and on possible other deals or signings in respect to our rotation.

UPDATE 11/13 11:34pm:
According to the Detroit FreePress, Boras in accordance to the Schilling deal, wants a one year/$10 million for his client. To me with his injury plagued season last year that is way to much to sign him for. Boras and Dombrowski needs to negotiate a compromising deal for around $7.5-8.5 million with incentives. This is bad news for the Tigers, as I feel we will not match Boras' offer.


Well today there wasn't much backlash or new news from the Tigers trade yesterday. Jones is expected to platoon with Thames/Raburn in '08. While shipping Jones to the Tigers the Cubs have also given around $2 million in the deal to the Tigers to help pay for his last year contract. I still say this will definitely give us a formidable lineup this year. This also gives us the ability to let Pudge bat 8th, and also puts less pressure on him and Inge. His career numbers of .280/.329/.455, will definitely help out. His 5 HR from last year I believe was a fluke and he will give us around 10-15 HR next year while knocking in around 70 RBIs. The lineup will look somewhat like this:

1. Granderson/Jones
2. Polanco
3. Sheffield
4. Ordonez
5. Guillen
6. Renteria
7. Jones/Granderson/Thames
8. Pudge
9. Inge

In other news, according to Chicagocubs.com former Tiger OF Craig Monroe is now a Minnesota Twin. The Cubs traded him to the Twins for a player to be named later, this move is a move to get some sort of prospect for a player they would not tender this year. Monroe who spent half of 2007 with the Tigers, hit .222/.264/.373 with 11 HR and 55 RBIs. He was an outstanding player but hit a plateau and is I think on the decline. With Minn. fans saying they love the bad trade of Jaques Jones to Detroit is just insane when their own GM just traded for a player on the decline. In any case I give my luck to Monroe and hope he turns it around this year.(except of course against the Tigers.)

For Braves fans, Tom Glavine and the Braves according to MLB.com, are expected to move swiftly through negotiations and sign Glavine to a 1 year deal around $7-9 million with incentives and a mutual option for '09. So good ol' Tommy wants to end his awesome career in a Braves uniform. That is all good but how good will Glavine be? Well he did have the 5th best quality starts in the NL in 2007 with 22. Though he had the 2nd highest ERA (4.45) in his career last year as well. I think the idea of being in a friendly environment in Atlanta, along with competing with his long time teammate and friend John Smoltz will also give him incentive to out pitch John. Glavine will be a great #3 pitcher for Atlanta, this along with no pressure to be the ace of the pitching staff will enable Glavine to pitch unconditionally well without fallout from fans.

2008 Pitching Staff:

1. Tim Hudson
2. Jon Smoltz
3. Tom Glavine?
4. Chuck James/Jair Jurrjens/Mike Hampton
5. Chuck James/Jair Jurrjens/Jo-Jo Reyes/Mike Hampton

I believe that the Braves will compete especially after the addition of Glavine and the Tigers need to shore up their pitching staff in order to make it back to the playoffs because their lineup is now all set.